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And yet the game was lost in the minutes he was off the floor

Jordan played significantly worse when Payton was on him, you made a dumb point everybody disagreed with.

Well, 40% was pretty good considering Pippen shot 34%, Harper 38%, Kerr 31%, Kukoc 42%. The Sonics were just insane on defense, but MJ managed.

Similar impact but Jokic's defensive limitations are harder to cover than Curry's. Neglible really, with the caveat of Steph being more ideal regarding high-level team/roster construction.

Moving screens have been an issue for a while though, maybe less bad now, but the grabbing is not ok, the pushing off is not ok, the double handcheck at the perimeter is not ok. Handcheck and grabbing makes a huge difference yes, it's why guys in the 90s didn't pound the ball as much, because if you can keep a forearm and hand on your opponent,...

If he is then they should just bang it out already and get it over with, provided Axe is into too. The world would be such a better and more peaceful place if people just fvcked more.

That's crazy. Jordan won a closeout title game doing 22 on 26% shooting. People shit on Kobe for his Game 7 vs Boston but he actually outscored him. Never heard a peep of criticism for MJ.

Jokic is in that LeBron/Shaq/Hakeem tier of peak dominance, Curry’s a tier below that imo.

no…. They both obviously make their teammates better, that’s like an absolute given, I was saying Steph helps his teammates more, there was no implication that Jokic doesn’t make his team better and no one would ever try to argue that in a basketball discussion. long story short you are being autistic af

Steph's reliance on 3s leads to more variance day to day. Joker has been much more consistent in the playoffs.

You literally just passive aggressively implied a contrast in your post earlier.

sometimes the shorter pesky guys are tougher to play against. Having to constantly watch your dribble against them makes it tough to keep your head up and see the floor, not that 6’4 vs 6’6 is any kind of significant height difference to be noteworthy.

Where did I say Jokic doesn’t? lol Ok i’ll put this in a more simplistic manner… Who is a better off ball player? Steph Curry or Jokic

Read his tweets. They read exactly like my retarded incel cousin who never leaves his computer. I won't say Musk is dumb, and he has drive and ambition which is most of success anyway. But he does not possess deep intellect and he clearly had a lot given to him mixed with some lucky steps.

You’re playing the semantics game, not me. The Church of Satan, despite its name, does not believe in supernatural deities, including…the Devil (or Satan). The beliefs are more philosophical in nature, and they are named the Church of Satan in a satirical manner because a lot of them either oppose or have different takes than typical Christian...

And now they're up 3-2 and spanking them dummy. :lol Wisen up, you hear me?

Yup. They both do. Jokic hasn't really had a 2016 Finals thing happen though. Unless you count the bubble vs Dwight.

Jokic makes his teammates better too wtf.

Stop lying. We are just a week removed from people questioning Jokic greatness because of two bad games where he shot 42 percent and had 11 turnovers and to the eye was playing uninspired and borderline overmatched by the Timberwolves defense. Do better troll

Curry makes his team better Jokic racks up more counting stats though so I expect that will influence most posters

She's a devout Buddhist and it's a Buddhist hand sign meaning "Life Force" which is what her shirt says you absolute dumb shit. :oldlol: Further, she's hardly even rich or famous, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who even knows who she is. So what happened there? She only sold a 1/10th of her soul?

To compare jokic to Demarcus cousins is so absurd there aren't even words in the English or any world language for that matter to describe it. We would have to travel to another galaxy and learn a higher dimensional form of communication to describe how bad that comparison is.

You’ve literally never made one insightful post in your entire life

There is no question Curry is the better player. Jokic's game relies on one thing- his being bigger and heavier than other players. Without that, he is merely an above-average player- a good shot and a passer. Jokic barrels into the defender, creating open looks and double teams he can pass out of. Were he DeMarcus Cousins doing the same...

No he didn't lol. He shot like 40% from the field and 30% from 3. That's trash. GP actually outshot him.

It's funny because Minny has shot more FTs than Denver on the series and the Lakers shot way more FTs than Denver. That dude is a total clown. :lol

Jokic uses touch shots and passes to generate offense more than any center ever. It's hilarious because guys like Shaq... whose called the MDE at his peak... made living at 325+ all muscle slamming dudes out the way and gorilla slamming the ball through the hoop. If anything Yolk is going easy on them physicality wise.

Curry is a top 10 player all time ~ 4 rings all with superstar production, GOAT season, only UMVP in history, etc. But... he's capable of having bad games. Yolk might be the GOAT because he simply doesn't have bad games.

I went with Joker as well. I am a big Steph fan but Jokic is more consistent and can adjust better to the defense.

never saw pantera but i like a lot of their music