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NBA lottery pick
Re: Is elite defense a requisite for MVP?
Originally Posted by basketballcat
Why does not being elite defensively disqualify a player for the MVP, in the minds of some people? Can offensive prowess compensate for a lack of defense? I'll disregard the shaky narrative on some players first and focus just on logic. Let's say a player averages 0.5 spg and 0.5 bpg BUT averages 50ppg, 20apg, and 10rpg. Are those not MVP numbers?
Who would you rather have in your team?
Mr. Complete Package: 25ppg, 8rpg, 7apg, 2.5 bpg, 2.0 spg
Mr. Extremely Ridiculous Offense: 50ppg, 5rpg, 20apg, 0.5 bpg, 0.5spg
Same FG%, 3pt%, turnovers, fouls, etc.
Surely, there is a tipping point when offense compensates for defense. If a player scores 200 ppg on 70% shooting and does literally nothing else, is that not valued? Or are we turning off our brains for narratives?
It's pretty simple. Defense can be supplied by role players up to a point where your offensive star's liability doesn't matter that much. So, yes, you can be a mvp without good defense. As long as the MVP's team wins and he's the deciding factor he will get it.
In contrast to that roleplayers rarely supply enough offense for teams to constantly win unless it's a team like the oldman Duncan Spurs. And on such team rarely any player will get MVP consideration.
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NBA All-star
Re: Is elite defense a requisite for MVP?
Originally Posted by Overdrive
It's pretty simple. Defense can be supplied by role players up to a point where your offensive star's liability doesn't matter that much. So, yes, you can be a mvp without good defense. As long as the MVP's team wins and he's the deciding factor he will get it.
In contrast to that roleplayers rarely supply enough offense for teams to constantly win unless it's a team like the oldman Duncan Spurs. And on such team rarely any player will get MVP consideration.
wrong, this is exactly how Purdue lost to UConn. if Defense just didn't matter, star bigs should be able to get as many assist as possible, just for the simple fact they can see the floor better.
great team defense means a simple message, beating us 1 v 1 won't get you anywhere. or you can just be a fatherless roleplayer.
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National High School Star
Re: Is elite defense a requisite for MVP?
Just go back to giving it to the best player on the best team.
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Re: Is elite defense a requisite for MVP?
Originally Posted by basketballcat
Why does not being elite defensively disqualify a player for the MVP, in the minds of some people? Can offensive prowess compensate for a lack of defense? I'll disregard the shaky narrative on some players first and focus just on logic. Let's say a player averages 0.5 spg and 0.5 bpg BUT averages 50ppg, 20apg, and 10rpg. Are those not MVP numbers?
Who would you rather have in your team?
Mr. Complete Package: 25ppg, 8rpg, 7apg, 2.5 bpg, 2.0 spg
Mr. Extremely Ridiculous Offense: 50ppg, 5rpg, 20apg, 0.5 bpg, 0.5spg
Same FG%, 3pt%, turnovers, fouls, etc.
Surely, there is a tipping point when offense compensates for defense. If a player scores 200 ppg on 70% shooting and does literally nothing else, is that not valued? Or are we turning off our brains for narratives?
I think that's taking it too literal. Obviously what they mean is defense is a big factor for them in evaluating how good a player is. Obviously overwhelming offensive prowess would compensate for it.
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NBA All-star
Re: Is elite defense a requisite for MVP?
Originally Posted by iamgine
Obviously overwhelming offensive prowess would compensate for it.
military industry complex much?
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NBA Superstar
Re: Is elite defense a requisite for MVP?
Originally Posted by Akeem34TheDream
Just go back to giving it to the best player on the best team.
They gave it to the best player and Denver were favorites for much of the season.
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