When's the last time a DPOY is destroyed this bad?

[iamgine]

[90sgoat]

MJ destroyed Gary Payton.

[Kblaze8855]

The most recent one I recall having his matchup specifically sought out over and over to the detriment of his team is Rudy himself in previous years when they would just find a way to make him guard a shooter knowing he couldn’t stand to do it and would roam and leave him open.

[Overdrive]

Mutombo 2001.

[basketballcat]

MJ destroyed Gary Payton.

Payton was 2 inches shorter than Jordan. He had a plumbing license as well.

Payton didn't guard Jordan until game 4. The series went 2-1, in favour of the Sonics, with the 6'4" plumber clamping down Jordan.
Jordan's stats:
Game 4: 23 pts, 31.6 FG%
Game 5: 26 pts, 50 FG%
game 6: 22 pts, 26.3%

He got locked up.

[basketballcat]

Mutombo was the DPOY in 1995.

[basketballcat]

Mutombo 2001.

True, but that wasn't peak Mutombo. It was already his 10th year. He averaged only 2.7bpg that year. That's worse that any of his previous seasons. His peak was at 4.5 bpg 5 years earlier.

Garnett & Duncan had were statistically better, but Mutombo won the DPOY based on team narrative. Even David Robinson, Ben Wallace, and Theo Ratliff had better stats. In fact, Ratliff would have probably won it, if he wasn't traded for Mutombo. Philly had to get Mutombo because they knew Ratliff was undersized for Shaq or Duncan.

[ShawkFactory]

Payton was 2 inches shorter than Jordan. He had a plumbing license as well.

Payton didn't guard Jordan until game 4. The series went 2-1, in favour of the Sonics, with the 6'4" plumber clamping down Jordan.
Jordan's stats:
Game 4: 23 pts, 31.6 FG%
Game 5: 26 pts, 50 FG%
game 6: 22 pts, 26.3%

He got locked up.

Yea I was gonna say. Payton did a very good job on Jordan in that series.

The Sonics gave Payton the Deion Sanders treatment in the first half of the series in that they put him on someone else and let him completely lock them up 1-on-1 so they could have guys help on Jordan.

[plowking]

Robinson often got the better of Hakeem prior to this series.

That series shifted the whole narrative of who the best center out of the two was. It was a lot closer than people make it out to be.

[SouBeachTalents]

MJ destroyed Gary Payton.

I don’t even think 3ball would say some shit like this

[iamgine]

Robinson often got the better of Hakeem prior to this series.

That series shifted the whole narrative of who the best center out of the two was. It was a lot closer than people make it out to be.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...akeem-Olajuwon

[Kblaze8855]

True, but that wasn't peak Mutombo. It was already his 10th year. He averaged only 2.7bpg that year. That's worse that any of his previous seasons. His peak was at 4.5 bpg 5 years earlier.

Garnett & Duncan had were statistically better, but Mutombo won the DPOY based on team narrative. Even David Robinson, Ben Wallace, and Theo Ratliff had better stats. In fact, Ratliff would have probably won it, if he wasn't traded for Mutombo. Philly had to get Mutombo because they knew Ratliff was undersized for Shaq or Duncan.

it’s a pretty similar situation. A routinely mocked for lack of all around skill four-time, defensive player of the year Guarding somebody who really can’t be stopped, who was also taking the matchup personally. Guys like them don’t win awards because they can stop great scorers one on one. They win because they defend the other team in general.

But make them guard the unguardable they might as well be anybody. Makes more sense to me to let a worse defender guard the star. If you’re gonna get annihilated, leave the guy free who can help on everybody else.

[Xiao Yao You]

True, but that wasn't peak Mutombo. It was already his 10th year. He averaged only 2.7bpg that year. That's worse that any of his previous seasons. His peak was at 4.5 bpg 5 years earlier.

Garnett & Duncan had were statistically better, but Mutombo won the DPOY based on team narrative. Even David Robinson, Ben Wallace, and Theo Ratliff had better stats. In fact, Ratliff would have probably won it, if he wasn't traded for Mutombo. Philly had to get Mutombo because they knew Ratliff was undersized for Shaq or Duncan.

More blocks dont mean better d

[HoopsNY]

Robinson often got the better of Hakeem prior to this series.

That series shifted the whole narrative of who the best center out of the two was. It was a lot closer than people make it out to be.

I'm not sure where the idea comes from that Robinson usually got the better of Hakeem prior to this series?

Robinson RS '93-'95: 26.9 PPG on 51.3% FG%, 3.0 TOs
Robinson vs. Hakeem '93-'95: 23.1 PPG on 44.5% FG%, 3.6 TOs

Robinson RS '90-'95: 25.7 PPG on 52.7% FG%, 3.0 TOs
Robinson vs. Hakeem '90-'95: 22.1 PPG on 46.6% FG%, 3.5 TOs

The first one is Hakeem's peak.

[tpols]

MJ destroyed Gary Payton.

No he didn't lol. He shot like 40% from the field and 30% from 3. That's trash. GP actually outshot him.