Peak Jokic vs Peak Curry

[1987_Lakers]

Who do you got?

[j3lademaster]

Joker, easy. I love Steph Curry, but he has a lot of issues in the playoffs. Joker otoh, rises to the occasion when you need him most. The only players who have been able to consistently do that in the playoffs have been Jordan, Lebron, Kawhi and Big Honey; very short list.

[tontoz]

I went with Joker as well. I am a big Steph fan but Jokic is more consistent and can adjust better to the defense.

[tpols]

Curry is a top 10 player all time ~ 4 rings all with superstar production, GOAT season, only UMVP in history, etc.

But... he's capable of having bad games. Yolk might be the GOAT because he simply doesn't have bad games.

[bdonovan]

There is no question Curry is the better player. Jokic's game relies on one thing- his being bigger and heavier than other players. Without that, he is merely an above-average player- a good shot and a passer. Jokic barrels into the defender, creating open looks and double teams he can pass out of. Were he DeMarcus Cousins doing the same thing, he would foul out of the game.

Curry brings an unparalleled skill to the game that is obvious by watching him. Amazing handles, can dribble past anyone, absolute wizardry in ball-handling and facillitating, dribble penetration and finding teammates whereever they are, one of the best finishers at the rim, the best passer in the game, best off the ball, the best shooter in the game. And not spot up 3. That's not skill. He creates 3's, and still shoots at a high %, much higher difficulty than spot-up 3 pt shooters which adds minimal value to the team offense.

Superior conditioning. Curry at 35 has more in his legs down the stretch of a game than Jokic has in his 20s. The difference in conditioning shows in the quality of their play in the 2nd half.

Klay Thompson would be a 3 and D nobody on any other team. We wouldn't even be talking about him were he not on the Warriors. His wide open looks owe to Curry's gravity. Curry's ability to make people around him great is second to none. Look at Andrew Wiggins' emergence since he played with Steph. Jokic has that ability too with Aaron Gordon as an example, but Curry is famous for it- and has produced more as a result.

Neither player excels on defense but Curry is 100% committed and his work in the gym and conditioning shows. Jokic is simply too slow, doesn't contest well on the perimeter, and is lagging at the end of the game.

It's not easy to win 4 rings. Of players that won their first championship fully in the 2000s (2000-2001), it is exceedingly rare. Tony Parker and LeBron were the only other ones of that same era. If you look at anyone who won their first rings after 2010's- it's just LeBron and Curry as leaders of their teams.

[tpols]

To compare jokic to Demarcus cousins is so absurd there aren't even words in the English or any world language for that matter to describe it. We would have to travel to another galaxy and learn a higher dimensional form of communication to describe how bad that comparison is.

[warriorfan]

Curry makes his team better


Jokic racks up more counting stats though so I expect that will influence most posters

[Carbine]

Curry is a top 10 player all time ~ 4 rings all with superstar production, GOAT season, only UMVP in history, etc.

But... he's capable of having bad games. Yolk might be the GOAT because he simply doesn't have bad games.

Stop lying. We are just a week removed from people questioning Jokic greatness because of two bad games where he shot 42 percent and had 11 turnovers and to the eye was playing uninspired and borderline overmatched by the Timberwolves defense.

Do better troll

[j3lademaster]

Curry makes his team better


Jokic racks up more counting stats though so I expect that will influence most posters

Jokic makes his teammates better too wtf.

[tpols]

Jokic makes his teammates better too wtf.

Yup. They both do. Jokic hasn't really had a 2016 Finals thing happen though. Unless you count the bubble vs Dwight.

[tpols]

Stop lying. We are just a week removed from people questioning Jokic greatness because of two bad games where he shot 42 percent and had 11 turnovers and to the eye was playing uninspired and borderline overmatched by the Timberwolves defense.

Do better troll

And now they're up 3-2 and spanking them dummy.

Wisen up, you hear me?

[warriorfan]

Jokic makes his teammates better too wtf.

Where did I say Jokic doesn’t? lol


Ok i’ll put this in a more simplistic manner…

Who is a better off ball player? Steph Curry or Jokic

[j3lademaster]

Where did I say Jokic doesn’t? lol


Ok i’ll put this in a more simplistic manner…

Who is a better off ball player? Steph Curry or Jokic

Curry makes his team better


Jokic racks up more counting stats though so I expect that will influence most posters

You literally just passive aggressively implied a contrast in your post earlier.

[tontoz]

Steph's reliance on 3s leads to more variance day to day. Joker has been much more consistent in the playoffs.

[warriorfan]

You literally just passive aggressively implied a contrast in your post earlier.

no….

They both obviously make their teammates better, that’s like an absolute given, I was saying Steph helps his teammates more, there was no implication that Jokic doesn’t make his team better and no one would ever try to argue that in a basketball discussion.


long story short you are being autistic af