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    Default Re: When's the last time a DPOY is destroyed this bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by basketballcat View Post
    Payton was 2 inches shorter than Jordan. He had a plumbing license as well.

    Payton didn't guard Jordan until game 4. The series went 2-1, in favour of the Sonics, with the 6'4" plumber clamping down Jordan.
    Jordan's stats:
    Game 4: 23 pts, 31.6 FG%
    Game 5: 26 pts, 50 FG%
    game 6: 22 pts, 26.3%

    He got locked up.
    sometimes the shorter pesky guys are tougher to play against. Having to constantly watch your dribble against them makes it tough to keep your head up and see the floor, not that 6’4 vs 6’6 is any kind of significant height difference to be noteworthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballcat View Post
    Payton was 2 inches shorter than Jordan. He had a plumbing license as well.

    Payton didn't guard Jordan until game 4. The series went 2-1, in favour of the Sonics, with the 6'4" plumber clamping down Jordan.
    Jordan's stats:
    Game 4: 23 pts, 31.6 FG%
    Game 5: 26 pts, 50 FG%
    game 6: 22 pts, 26.3%

    He got locked up.
    That's crazy.

    Jordan won a closeout title game doing 22 on 26% shooting. People shit on Kobe for his Game 7 vs Boston but he actually outscored him. Never heard a peep of criticism for MJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    No he didn't lol. He shot like 40% from the field and 30% from 3. That's trash. GP actually outshot him.
    Well, 40% was pretty good considering Pippen shot 34%, Harper 38%, Kerr 31%, Kukoc 42%.

    The Sonics were just insane on defense, but MJ managed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90sgoat View Post
    Well, 40% was pretty good considering Pippen shot 34%, Harper 38%, Kerr 31%, Kukoc 42%.

    The Sonics were just insane on defense, but MJ managed.
    Jordan played significantly worse when Payton was on him, you made a dumb point everybody disagreed with.

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    Default Re: When's the last time a DPOY is destroyed this bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by basketballcat View Post
    Payton was 2 inches shorter than Jordan. He had a plumbing license as well.

    Payton didn't guard Jordan until game 4. The series went 2-1, in favour of the Sonics, with the 6'4" plumber clamping down Jordan.
    Jordan's stats:
    Game 4: 23 pts, 31.6 FG%
    Game 5: 26 pts, 50 FG%
    game 6: 22 pts, 26.3%

    He got locked up.
    This is nonsense tbh. If Payton made such a difference MJ wouldn’t have shot 50% in game 5. Chicago took their collective foot off the gas in game 4 which is human nature being up 3-0. Game 6 he was merely off (evidenced by game 5) yet still dominated from the line and led the team in assists.

    Jordan also shot 40% in game 2. Was Payton guarding him that game too? No, he was just off which happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theman93 View Post
    This is nonsense tbh. If Payton made such a difference MJ wouldn’t have shot 50% in game 5. Chicago took their collective foot off the gas in game 4 which is human nature being up 3-0. Game 6 he was merely off (evidenced by game 5) yet still dominated from the line and led the team in assists.

    Jordan also shot 40% in game 2. Was Payton guarding him that game too? No, he was just off which happens.
    Rodman won them Game 6.

    19 boards and an absurd 11 offensive rebounds. That's just demoralizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Rodman won them Game 6.

    19 boards and an absurd 11 offensive rebounds. That's just demoralizing.
    Nobody “won” Chicago game 6. They just decided to lock in collectively on defense and held Seattle to 75 when they were averaging 92 the 5 games prior. It was a defensive masterclass as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theman93 View Post
    Nobody “won” Chicago game 6. They just decided to lock in collectively on defense and held Seattle to 75 when they were averaging 92 the 5 games prior. It was a defensive masterclass as a whole.
    And Rodman had more to do with the defense than Jordan. Plus grabbing 11 offensive rebounds is going to kill the other teams time of possesion.

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    Curry literally just did this to Marcus smart 2 years ago…honestly he looked more unstoppable because he had less help. But I’m starting to see this has nothing to do with basketball. lol carry on. I get it now. Keep hyping him up

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    MJ went up 3-0 on the Sonics averaging 31 ppg on 58.7 %TS. Then he started struggling as the Bulls took their foot off the gas pedal. Good case of where the box score averages don't tell the story of the series. Payton also wasn't the reason MJ shot poorly in the later games. He just missed a lot of open shots especially in Game 6.

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    Default Re: When's the last time a DPOY is destroyed this bad?

    This is a great example why offense is more important than defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mask the Embiid View Post
    Curry literally just did this to Marcus smart 2 years ago…honestly he looked more unstoppable because he had less help. But I’m starting to see this has nothing to do with basketball. lol carry on. I get it now. Keep hyping him up

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    Default Re: When's the last time a DPOY is destroyed this bad?

    To be fair it's Jokic we're talking about. Not a single person in NBA history can guard that man

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyMeatballs View Post
    To be fair it's Jokic we're talking about. Not a single person in NBA history can guard that man
    With todays rules anyway

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    Default Re: When's the last time a DPOY is destroyed this bad?

    Didn't Marcus Smart win the season Curry finally won Finals MVP?

    Crazy thing is, most great defenders don't lock down offensively talented players.

    Pistons had Rodman and Dumars and they still had to create a scheme to slow him down.

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